From: Gordon Wayne Watts of Lakeland, Florida, U.S.A.
To: The reader
Date: Sunday, 01 August 2010 (Last updated: Tue., 27 Sept. 2011)
Subject: My Testimony: How I 'got saved' (might help you to get saved too)

My Testimony: How I 'got saved'

Special thanks goes out to Jesus, the Nazarene Jew (aka 'Joshua' or "Y'eshua," in his original Hebrew tongue/language; or, 'Prophet Isa' as Muslims have named him) for the difficult job he (Y'eshua) accomplished regarding granting a certain request of mine -ironically before I had asked him -as a guiding role model & example request described below.

From Gordon Wayne Watts of Lakeland, Fla., USA, a servant and son of God and an Ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ -Peace be on Him (Acts 10:36) -and peace be upon you (Luke 24:36; John 20:19-26; Acts 10:36; Romans 5:1; Ephesians 6:23, etc.). To the reader, and all peoples, ethnicities, and nations; and to believers of all religions (Christians, Jews, Muslims, and even Atheists), Greetings:

Recently, I asked a preacher friend of mine to take a look at my website and tell me how well of a job I had done to bring the important news to you, the reader.

In response, he said that I should include a section about 'how to get saved' or something like that, and I felt a 'witness in my spirit' (or my conscience) tell me that he was correct; however, in my view, I think it would be better to tell you how I got saved, not just generic mumbo-jumbo or theological 'talking points.' With that in mind, here is my story:

First, it's important to define 'lost' and 'saved':

** As a (green and tender) child: God the Saviour ** When I was a young child, I knew that people died, and, like most everybody else, I was afraid of death. Then, when I was probably 10 or 11 years old, while attending a Baptist church in my hometown, I heard the preacher say that people who were 'lost' go to Hell, and those who were 'saved' go to Heaven when they eventually died. He said that in order to be 'saved,' I had to ask Jesus into my heart and accept Him as my Saviour and Lord. I'm not sure, but I think that John 3:16 was quoted.

Although I am sure he was 'theologically, Biblically, and scripturally' correct (and correct in any other way), I did not fully understand what it meant to 'be saved,' but I'm sure that God, in His grace and mercy would have not permitted me to go to Hell had I died right after that. (After all, I was a child, and I only had a childish intellect and understanding at that time, and not as much could be expected of me as of an adult.)

As a (more mature) young adult: God the role model ** Later in life, when I was a young adult, I worked for many fast-food chains, and I was sure that I was mistreated by being under-paid, over-worked, and in some (but not all) cases, treated with disrespect by managers who worked less and got paid more, and it seemed that you could only be promoted 'up the chain,' so to speak, by being dishonest and mistreating your employees. Year-after-year this went on. While that was not the worst injustice in the world, I did see *many* injustices, that being the one that caught my eye. LIFE WAS UNFAIR!! I was despondent and despaired to live life, but thank God, I was not suicidal. Nonetheless, I was very stressed-out over what I perceived as 'injustices' and unjust 'moral wrongs' in the world. I remember riding back from one of my fast-food jobs on bicycle the 4-mile (6.4-kilometre), one-way trip home one late evening. (I suppose my car had become broken, forcing me to bicycle.)

Now, I know what many 'Christian' readers might be thinking right about now: If I was 'saved' as a child, why am I continuing on in my 'testimony?' I hear you, brother, but, if you truly believe the Good Book, then you will understand the concept we find here in 2nd Corinthians 3:18, which says (in the KJV) "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." Take a look at the underlined part: We are changed into God's image "from glory to glory," meaning that my salvation experience as a child, could *not*, Biblically, be of the same 'glory' as that of a young adult, so I must continue to tell you my experiences, since some of the readers are no doubt young adults who could relate.

As well, I know that there are people reading this page who may not be sure if the Holy Bible is a correct analysis of salvation -that is: "Is the Bible true?" -- Since I am using the Holy Bible to explain salvation, then you might want to know why, exactly, I think that the Bible is correct on all fronts, morally, historically, and yes!, even scientifically accurate. For those of you who doubt the Bible's accuracy, I would refer you to my research paper on that topic here:

or here:

Anyhow, to continue with my testimony -my personal encounter with God: As I was driving home from work, late one night, the 4-mile (6.4-kilometre) trip by bicycle was long and lonely, and I cried out to God (in my heart, not verbally), asking Him why life was so tough and unfair. THEN, I don't know quite why, but I went out on a limb, and asked God if the universe was a defective creation, and whether the human body was a defective 'vehicle' for my spirit & soul. (In all honesty, I was complaining as much as I was questioning, but I was trying to be respectful: He is Almighty God, after all! He's the Big Boss -and I'm not.) *THEN*, I went even one step further - I did the unthinkable!@ I asked God Almighty if HE could, you know, jump into a human body, and 'test drive' it to ensure me it was not a defective vehicle. As incredible as this sounds, my logic was sound: I reasoned that if He granted my request and could show me the human body was not defective, then the problems we humans were having was a result of the drivers, the 'nut behind the wheel,' so to speak. (Laughter) OK, but in all seriousness, I was really upset -and wanted to know whether or not even a 'perfect God' would have trouble living in human form, or, whether even He would find life 'hopeless' and just give up. (Inquiring minds want to know! -At least *my* mind.) So, while bike-riding the long, lonely trip home, I made these complaints and inquiries of The Almighty. Then, sometime later, it dawned on me...

According to my religious beliefs, Jesus Christ is God, The Son, just as much 'God' as The Father, and Jesus lived in a human body, according to reliable historical sources. So, if I were paying attention, Jesus had answered my prayer even before I had asked. Hmm... For those of you 'Christians' who would accept the Bible as valid evidence/proof, yet are still uncertain whether Jesus is Very God, please see my other research paper on *that* topic:

or here:

So, Jesus became my Saviour as a child, and then He became my role model and example as a young adult, showing me that a life in this human world was not hopeless: He showed me, Himself, that it was not hopeless. For both Jews and Christians alike, there are scriptures that support my claim that it's possible to live a Holy (not hopeless) life: Lev 11:44-45, 20:7; 1st Thess 4:7-8; 1st Pet 1:15-16. GOD would not ask us to live a holy life in Old and New Testaments if it were impossible. FURTHERMORE, to prove this is possible, Jesus, our example and role model, was sent to "test drive" a body, to show us ***by example*** that it is possible: John 13:15; John 14:12; 1st Peter 2:21. If the human genetic code had defective DNA in it, then Jesus would not have been able to live a sinless, holy life. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that we, humans, do NOT need to be recalled and destroyed like a bad, defective vehicle. (In short, Jesus saved us.)

Leviticus 11:44-45 (Holy Bible, KJV)
44For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
45For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.

Leviticus 20:7 (Holy Bible, KJV)
7Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.

1st Thessalonians 4:7-8 (Holy Bible, KJV)
7For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
8He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

1st Peter 1:15-16 (Holy Bible, KJV)
15But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation (*);
16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

(*) Note: The word translated in the KJV as 'conversation' is the Greek word, "anastrophe," Strong's number 391, and the literal meaning in modern-day English is "manner of life, conduct, behaviour, deportment," so a more accurate rendering of that verse would be to ask us to be holy in ALL our conduct, not just how we talk. By the way, for those who only use the KJV, please note that this translation of 'behaviour' agrees with the other scriptures cited here, which ask us to LIVE holy, not just TALK holy.

John 13:15 (Holy Bible, KJV, words of our LORD in red, comments in brackets)
15For I [Jesus speaking] have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.

John 14:12 (Holy Bible, KJV, words of our LORD in red, comments in brackets)
12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I [Jesus] do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

1st Peter 2:21 (Holy Bible, KJV)
21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

** As an older middle-aged adult: God the Saviour - again ** Since then, I've had a few scary encounters with my mortality that made me think again. One frightening incident was when I tripped in my garage, where the family refrigerator is; I cut myself real badly, and I was uncertain whether or not I (or the hospital) would be able to stop the bleeding sufficient to keep me alive. Another time, I was trying out some new vitamins, which had a lot of B-1 (thiamine), and I did not wait a full 24-hours before I took the next dose -I just waited until after midnight, like a few hours later. By coincidence, I had tried out a new energy shot, which had an unknown amount of caffeine in it (did not list it on the label), and to make a long story short, I was awake for 30 hours and felt cold sweats and a racing heartbeat, not to mention constant diarrhea. While I did not take more than the recommended dose of the stuff, it had a very bad reaction with me, and it scared me half to death. I felt my own mortality, and I felt very death breathing down my neck.

Anyhow, at that time, I was attending a Sunday school class at the Baptist church in the new town where I was now living, and, by coincidence (or was it?), the sermon series was on Salvation. That particular morning, the sermon was on Eternal Security of our salvation: 'Can we lose our salvation?' or something like that. Well, I paid very close attention, as you might imagine. What did I learn?

Well, besides John 3:16, in which God loved the WHOLE world, I learned about John chapter 10, in which Jesus says that NO one can snatch me out of His hand, and furthermore, no one can snatch me out of HIS FATHER's hand:

John 10:27-29 (Holy Bible, KJV, words of our LORD in red, comments in brackets)
27[Jesus speaking said] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

One analogy was real helpful: Since God is our Father (think: OUR Father who art in heaven), then we are His children, and He's not going to let us run out into traffic, if He's holding our hand. He will hold on REAL TIGHTLY, and we can only get loose if we keep pulling. But, even if we get loose, somehow, God is like the father in the parable of the prodigal son: The father kept looking for the son. That story is told in LUKE 15:11-32, and the climax is probably in verse 20, which reads:

Luke 15:20 (Holy Bible, KJV, words of our LORD in red, comments in brackets)
20And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him [because the father was out looking for him -that's why he saw his son off in the distance], and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.

So, now the following passages *do* make some sense:

Romans 3:23 (Holy Bible, KJV)
23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
[Comment: Anyone with half a brain will agree with this.]

Romans 6:23 (Holy Bible, KJV)
23For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
[Comment: Since we're sinful, we were unable to 'test-drive' the human body, as I described in my testimony above, and therefore, had Jesus Christ not done so, we'd all be left wondering 'what up'? Left in limbo -without a solid guide, role model, and example to encourage our faith.]

John 3:14-18 (Holy Bible, KJV, words of our LORD in red)
14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[Comment: When the scriptures here say 'believe,' it does not mean to merely believe it is true. James 2:19 (Holy Bible, KJV) says: "19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils {e.g., the demons, the fallen angels} also believe, and tremble." It means to completely trust and rely upon. For example: One guy says, yeah, he 'believes' the circus bicyclist can "drive his bicycle" across the Grand Canyon on a small tight-wire. Yes, but does he believe enough to hop in a basket on the back of the bike? And let the stunt performer drive the both of them across?]

THAT's what 'believe in Jesus' means. ~~ ONE LAST EXAMPLE - from my personal life:

When I was a child, my father promised he'd pick me up from elementary school and give me a ride to the boy scout meeting of which I was a member. For whatever reason, I got nervous and took the school bus home -but my father was faithful and true: He still arrived at school, even though I had 'lost faith.' -- God is the same way: HE WILL ARRIVE, but if you get nervous and don't trust Him, you'll 'miss your ride.' ~~ Now, I want to emphasize, you don't get saved by your works, what you do: Only ONE person could pull that off, and that was Jesus, the Nazarene.

You don't get saved by good works. Rather, you do good works by being saved and having the help of the Almighty God. If you're saved, you will want to do good works, and your attitude and heart will be changed. According to Romans 5:8, "God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us," which means, in plain English, that God loved sinners, and if we turn to Him, it stands to reason that He will love us even more, so God is trustworthy to hold on tightly to us and not let anyone snatch or pluck us out of His hand -and neither is Jesus. (Jesus said we were in HIS hand, AND that we were in His FATHER's hand. Re-read that passage if you don't understand.)

Besides being our Saviour and role-model /&/ example, Jesus is also our Healer and our Advocate (literally, defense attorney in the heavenly courts). Here are select passages to clarify:

1st John 1:9 (Holy Bible, KJV)
9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1st John 2:1-2 (Holy Bible, KJV, comments in brackets)
1My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate [i.e., a defense attorney] with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

So, the conclusion of the whole matter is that God loves us, and, in sending Jesus, we are getting all *kinds* of help: Jesus is still on the throne, working hard on our behalf:

Hebrews 7:24-25 (Holy Bible, KJV, comments in brackets)
24But this man [e.g., Jesus Christ], because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Comment: In other words, Jesus is making intercession, pleading our case, right now, for anyone who comes to God the Father, in answer to Jesus' request. When we respond to Jesus, we are acting as Jesus' representative, Jesus' Ambassador, that is, acting, legally-speaking, in Jesus' name:
2nd Corinthians 5:20 (Holy Bible, KJV)
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Now, since you hear Jesus knocking at your door, won't you answer Him?

Revelation 3:20 (Holy Bible, KJV, words of our LORD in red)
20Behold, I [Jesus!] stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

That's *my* testimony. Yours may differ. (For example: Samson knew God for the strength he got; Solomon knew God for the wisdom he got; David knew God for the mercy he got -after he committed adultery with Bathsheba, wife of Uriah the Hittite. I know God for the example and role model -and for the assurance of salvation.)

Now, since I didn't live with Jesus in person, it was hard for me, sometimes, to identify with Him: "What would Jesus do?" ~ I don't know sometimes. That is why I am glad I have Godly people of valour in my life, both that I know *and* that I "know of." One of my favourite role models was a man named Roland H. Buck. He was a grandson of the Buck Knife inventor, and he (reluctantly) wrote a book about his experience, "Angels on Assignment," a real interesting book; however, when his daughter, Sharon White, wrote a book to answer people's question about who her father was, we got an idea from many peoples' testimony, as to how Rev. Buck handled tough situations. Since this testimony seems sincere, accurate, and, while his theology is sometimes criticised, none of his testimony has ever (to my knowledge) been refuted, I trust it 'as gospel' so to speak. Thus, when I have difficulty knowing 'what would Jesus do,' I can guess 'what would ROLAND do,' and be assured it is a close estimate -to get me on base: Rev. Roland Buck was a man of honour, who often knew how to get warring factions reconciled and realise peace -even if it was at high cost to himself! If you want to get a copy of this man's book, click on my front page, and you can either buy a hard copy or get a FREE copy online. (I'm not out to 'make a buck' off you; you can 'write a cheque' on that, and 'take it to the banque!') If you're getting knocked off-centre, and need a role model of a 'real Christian,' click the 'Angels on Assignment' link on my front page menu -and get the book -for FREE if need be!

Remember, at the top of the page, where I said I was vitimised and mistreated? Well, according to Mark 11:25, I am supposed to forgive everybody of what they've done to me. They may not accept forgiveness, but I *am* supposed to offer it. If you're reading this, and that's you, and you are sorry for mistreating me and want me to forgive you, then it is so: I've given my word and can't go back. Now, I will not allow people to mistreat me -I will defend family values and defend the weak and powerless, but I'm not vindictive; I'm not "out to get someone" -including you. I'm trying to demonstrate the changed life that God has given me. Anything less would be simply disrespectful to God.

A special word to fellow-Christians: Does this line up Biblically -and also 'make sense?'

A special word to Jews: I realise that you are also looking for a 'Saviour' or 'Messiah.' Is it correct for me to assume you are looking for someone who will rescue and save you by military force? If this is correct, then rest assured that 'we Christians,' as I understand my own faith, agree with you on this point: See e.g., the Revelation of John, the last book in our Bible; however, I understand you to be looking for two different 'Messiahs,' according to your own scripture: The 'triumphant Messiah' in ISAIAH 53:12 ("Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;") coming back to rescue and deliver --and also the 'suffering Messiah' as described in ISAIAH 53:3-5 ("He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not...we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted...But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities:...") QUESTION: Are these 2 men the same person -or 'two different Messiahs'? (Indeed: I have been told that, even among Jews, there is not complete agreement of the exact role and expectation of Messiah.) ---KEY QUESTION: I am told that many of the prophecies of your Messiah in your law were fulfilled, to the letter, by Jesus, the Nazarene (aka Y'eshua, or 'Joshua' in our language). Have you checked out the historical records of the 'New Testament,' the Jewish historian, Josephus, or other contemporary historians to see if Y'eshua, the Nazarene, fulfilled your scriptures? LASTLY, since indeed you search for a 'suffering' Messiah, does my description of the perfect role model, guide, and example in the Nazarene make sense?

A special word to Muslims: I greatly respect and love Muhammad -Peace be on him; and he had many excellent things to say about how to live our lives in high standards of moral conduct, such as taking care of the poor (5 Pillars of Islam). Nonetheless, he also claimed to be a Prophet of the Most High God, and if that be, we should make sure he is correct. In Surah 4:47 of his Holy Qur'an (aka 'Holy Koran' in our language), he claimed that the Islam scriptures confirm and support the holy scriptures of the Jews and Christians:

Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:47, Dr. Mohsin: "O you who have been given the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Believe in what We have revealed (to Muhammad SAW) confirming what is (already) with you, before We efface faces (by making them like the back of necks; without nose, mouth, eyes) and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath¬breakers.[] And the Commandment of Allâh is always executed.[]"
Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:47, Yusuf Ali: "O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:47, Pickthal: "O ye unto whom the Scripture hath been given! Believe in what We have revealed confirming that which ye possess, before We destroy countenances so as to confound them, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers (of old time). The commandment of Allah is always executed."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:47, Shakir: "O you who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:47, Abdul Daryabadi: "O Ye who are vouchsafed the Book believe in that which We have sent down confirming that which is with you, ere We alter countenances and turn them into their hinder parts, or We might curse them even as We cursed the fellows of the Sabt; and Allahs command is ever fulfilled."

Note: Not only does Surah 4:47 support & confirm the 'Law' (Torah) and 'Evangel' (Christian Gospel) as accurate, but also, Surahs 2:89; 3:84; 4:136; 5:43-60; and, 7:157 suggest that the 'Law' given to the Jews by Moses & later by Prophet Isa to the Christians is correct -and should be followed by them (us)! I am very gratful for that, but Surah 109 says just the opposite -that the other religions should NOT be followed by you.

Holy Qur'an, Surah 2:89, Pickthal: "And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession..."

Holy Qur'an, Surah 3:84, Yusuf Ali: "Say: We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:136, Shakir: "O you who believe! believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book which He has revealed to His Messenger and the Book which He revealed before; and whoever disbelieves in Allah and His angels and His messengers and the last day, he indeed strays off into a remote error."

Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:43-60, selected verses:
v. 43, Pickthal: "How come they unto thee for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers."
v. 44, Yusuf Ali: "It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light..."
v. 46, Yusuf Ali: "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah."
v. 46, Pickthal: "And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil)."
v. 46, Shakir: "And We sent after them in their footsteps Isa, son of Marium, verifying what was before him of the Taurat and We gave him the Injeel in which was guidance and light, and verifying what was before it of Taurat and a guidance and an admonition for those who guard (against evil)."
v. 47, Yusuf Ali: "Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel."
v. 48, Yusuf Ali: "To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;"

Holy Qur'an, Surah 7:157, Pickthal: "Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them...Then those who believe in him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him: they are the successful."

Holy Qur'an, Surah 10:94, Pickthal: "And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers."

Did you see all that? The Holy Qur'an says the Bible, both Old Testament (Law) and New Testament (Evangel) Scriptures/Book are reliable!

Holy Qur'an, Surah 109, verses 1-6, Shakir:
v1: Say: O unbelievers!
v2: I do not serve that which you serve,
v3: Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
v4: Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
v5: Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
v6: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

NOTE: All these passages except for Surah 109 support the notion that Islam's Prophet Muhammad supported/confirmed as accurate the JEWISH Torah and the CHRISTIAN Evangel (Gospel scriptures), and recognised these Jews & Christians as 'People of the Book,' who SHOULD follow their religious holy book, as given to them (us) by God Almighty. What I don't understand is why Surah 109 all-of-a-sudden disagrees with the other Surahs above? There were many other Surahs that were very beautiful, that said to take care of the poor and be honest. For the sake of space, I could not list them all, but I do speak well of these many passages in the Qur'an, which support the 5 Pillars of Islam and the giving of alms to the needy and poor. They are blessed:

Holy Qur'an, Surah 2:273, Yusuf Ali: "(Charity is) for those in need, who, in Allah's cause are restricted (from travel), and cannot move about in the land, seeking (For trade or work): the ignorant man thinks, because of their modesty, that they are free from want. Thou shalt know them by their (Unfailing) mark: They beg not importunately from all the sundry. And whatever of good ye give, be assured Allah knoweth it well."

Muslims follow the 'Five Pillars of Islam,' which are the foundation of their religion and life:

1. Faith/belief in the 'Oneness' of God and the finality & accuracy of the prophethood of Muhammad;
2. Establishment of daily prayers;
3. Love/Concern for & charity/almsgiving to the poor/needy;
4. Self-purification through fasting in the month of Ramadan (from dawn until sundown), abstaining from food, drink, & sexual relations -good for the body & soul; and,
5. The pilgrimage to Makkah for all those who are able.

This is very beautiful, but if God is 'One,' then why do both Jewish, Christian, and Muslim scriptures, which you confirm/accept, all refer to God in the plural?

MUSLIM SCRIPTURES - Holy Qur'an, Surah 22:5, Yusuf Ali: "O mankind! if ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, (consider) that We created you out of dust..." [WE, plural]

JEWISH SCRIPTURES - Genesis 1:29, KJV: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness..." [US and OUR, plural]

CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES - John 10:30, KJV: "I and my Father are one." [WE ARE one, 'WE' plural]

Since the Qur'an supports the Law & Evangel, and all three say the God is plural, it seems that God is one, but plural, whatever that means; however, while we don't understand this matter fully, as humans, we should do like Surah 2:273 and the 5 Pillars say: We should love our neighbour.


I am not trying to be disrespectful or offend any of you Muslims who may read; I am not trying to 'make fun of' or ridicule your religion. Even as I said earlier, MANY things in your Qur'an are very useful -not being dishonest, praying, taking care of the poor, respecting Almighty God, etc. -- Peace be on you, who are sincere and dedicated to truth and honesty.

However, in spite of the claims of Surah 4:47 & other Surahs above, you full-well know that the CHRISTIANS' scriptures about Jesus are not confirmed by (or agree with) the Muslim beliefs of Islam regarding Prophet Isa (in other words: 'Prophet Jesus'). While many (even if not all) Christians accept that Jesus is worthy of worship, as I show in my other research above, you accept as only a Prophet:

Holy Qur'an, Surah 4:171, Yusuf Ali: "O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah..."

Holy Bible, John 1:1,3,10,14, KJV, comments in bracket:
1In the beginning was the Word [e.g., Jesus: see v.14] , and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
3All things were made by him [Jesus, 'the Word']; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
10He [Jesus] was in the world, and the world was made by him [Jesus], and the world knew him not.
14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us [obviously: Jesus], (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father [Jesus: See e.g., John 3:16],) full of grace and truth.

Also, in Surah 5:38 of the Holy Qur'an, you set the punishment for a thief to have his/her hands cut off; however, this does not confirm the JEWISH scriptures of Exodus 22:1-4 or Leviticus 6:1-5, which merely lay a financial punishment upon the thief:

Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:38, Yusuf Ali: "As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:38, Pickthal: "As for the thief, both male and female, cut off their hands. It is the reward of their own deeds, an exemplary punishment from Allah. Allah is Mighty, Wise."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 5:38, Shakir: "And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise."

Holy Bible, Exodus 22:1-4, KJV
1If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.
2If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
3If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
4If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double.

Holy Bible, Leviticus 6:1-5, KJV
1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the LORD, and lie unto his neighbour in that which was delivered him to keep, or in fellowship, or in a thing taken away by violence, or hath deceived his neighbour;
3Or have found that which was lost, and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein:
4Then it shall be, because he hath sinned, and is guilty, that he shall restore that which he took violently away, or the thing which he hath deceitfully gotten, or that which was delivered him to keep, or the lost thing which he found,
5Or all that about which he hath sworn falsely; he shall even restore it in the principal, and shall add the fifth part more thereto, and give it unto him to whom it appertaineth, in the day of his trespass offering.

Lastly, you know that in *both* Surah 9:5, *AND* Sura 9:111, fighting for religion is OK, but, in spite of the promises of the Qur'an's Surah 4:47 & others that the Qur'an confirms the JEWISH Law & the CHRISTIAN Evangel, NEITHER Surah 9:5 NOR 9:111 confirms these books of the law. In fact, both JEWISH and CHRISTIAN scriptures say that we should love both our neighbours (Leviticus 19:18; Romans 12:9-13) *and* love our enemies (Proverbs 25:21-22; Matthew 5:43-45; Luke 6:27-36; Romans 12:14-19).

Holy Koran, Sura 9:5, Yusuf Ali translation: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."
Holy Koran, Sura 9:5, Pickthal translation: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
Holy Koran, Sura 9:5, Shakir translation: "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

Holy Qur'an, Surah 9:111, Yusuf Ali translation: "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 9:111, Pickthal translation: "Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph."
Holy Qur'an, Surah 9:111, Shakir translation: "Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement."

JEWISH SCRIPTURES regarding loving your friends/neighbours - Leviticus 19:18, KJV:
18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES regarding loving your friends/neighbours - Romans 12:9-13, KJV:
9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
10Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;
11Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;
12Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;
13Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.

JEWISH SCRIPTURES regarding loving your enemies - Holy Bible, Proverbs 25:21-22, KJV:
21If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
22For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.
Comment, taken in part from the AMP translation: This 'heaping coals of fire upon his head' here is *not* to be understood as a revengeful act intended to embarrass its victim, but just the opposite. The picture is that of the high priest (see e.g., Leviticus 16:12) who, on the Day of Atonement, took his censer and filled it with "coals of fire" from off the altar of burnt offering, and then put incense on the coals to create a pleasing, sweet-smelling fragrance. The cloud or smoke of the incense covered the mercy seat and was acceptable to God for atonement. Samuel Wesley wrote: "So artists melt the sullen ore of lead, By heaping coals of fire upon its head: In the kind warmth the metal learns to glow, And pure from dross the silver runs below."

CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES regarding loving your enemies - Holy Bible, KJV:

Matthew 5:43-45
43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Luke 6:27-36
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

Romans 12:14-19
14Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
15Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
16Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
17Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
18If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

A few more answers to Muslims who may have questions about Christian beliefs:

re Matthew 14:23 -- why did Jesus pray if he is 'Godlike' in nature?

Answer: We, humans, needed an example -- a role model on how to live a pure life:

John 13:15; 1st Peter 2:21

... John 13:15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you.

1st Peter 2:21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.

Only a 100% Divine (Godlike) human, one without sin, could show us a purely 100% correct example, and the Quran agrees:

The Quran too declares that Jesus was without sin. When the Angel Jibril (Gabriel) appeared to Mary to announce her conception of Jesus, he said:

I am only a messenger of your Lord, to announce to you a faultless son (Surah 19:19).

“Faultless” or “blameless” clearly means without sin. So the Quran confirms the biblical teaching that Jesus was the only sinless person who ever lived as the Quran nowhere describes anyone else in this way. On the contrary, the Quran acknowledges the sins of the other prophets and specifically refers to the sins of Muhammad (47:19, 48:2). In the case of Muhammad the Quran expressly commands him to ask forgiveness (wastaghfir) of his sins (dhanbika).


re Quran 5:14 yes, many people cho call themselves Christians are NOT -- and even true Christians are humans and make mistakes -- and we all sin, and we all need help from The Almighty Creator God -- re Quran 9:31 -- We, Christians believe that Jesus is divine, and one in unity --even if not the same person:

John 17:22 explains out belief here: ""And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.""

So, this is what I mean: John 17:22 says that "they" (other Christians) should be 'one' --not the same person! -- Therefore, when Jesus and his heavenly Father are 'one,' we are not saying that we believe Jesus and his father are the same person -- merely in agreement -- "one in the Spirit," so to speak.

This may seem lengthy and difficult -- you and I may disagree on some points, but I do NOT hate anybody due to their beliefs. (Even 'Christians' disagree among ourselves, so it is no surprise that Jews, Christians, Muslims, and Atheists may sometimes disagree on certain matters.)

Be blessed by The Almighty Creator, and I hope I am blessing you with goodwill and encouragement.

A special word to Atheists: If even scientists today -with technology and DNA from dead dinosaurs and live toad frogs CAN NOT create a dinosaur, how, exactly, do you think it all got here? On its own?? Hogwash. If then you accept now there is some sort of 'God' or 'Creator,' then would you not take a look at my research page where I show evidence of the Bible's accuracy? The link is above -and repeated here:
or here:
* *ALT. LINK* (Yes, this page addresses both reincarnation AND the accuracy of the Bible.)

Did this make sense? Drop me a line at the 'contact' link on my home page, and let me know. May the God of all mercy and kindness and peace, to whom all honour belongs, bless and sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ; I wish and pray above all things that you may prosper and be in excellent health, even as thy soul prospers, even as Jesus and His Father hold you tightly/safely in their hands, as Jesus promised in John 10. With kind regard, I AM, Sincerely, an Ambassador of Christ,

Gordon Wayne Watts